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David R. Hawkins:    "To choose to experience the presence of God
occurs outside time. It is therefore nowhere in the future; it is available
only in the present. No other condition is necessary or even possible
because the present moment is permanent; it never changes; it never
disappears into yesterday or tomorrow. In fact, it is inescapable.
Everyone is actually safe in the exact moment of now."


Time is an illusion of the ego thought system. The only past or future
that exists, is in the illusory world of the ego.

Think about it, the past is nothing more than a trick, it is memories
stored in our brain which is of the body which is a projection of the
ego. They are just memories, nothing tangible. In fact we tend to
continue to alter our so called past memories on a regular basis. So
in fact the so called past is actually a myth that is stored in our brain.

Our wrong mind, believing in the ego thought system continues to draw
upon this myth from the present moment, tricking ourselves in to
believing that these events happened at some point in time before
right now.

So the so called past is a myth that we carry around in our brain for
our wrong mind to draw from. This is all a part of the ego's plan to
keep us thinking something in the past happened that was horrible,
turning away from God to specialness and maintaining our feelings of
guilt.

The future is an illusion, it is merely constant guessing at what we
think is going to happen in our lives. This guessing is constantly
going on in our wrong mind and it involves something to do with the
outcome of our bodies. But it is nothing more than guessing or
predicting so called future outcomes.

So you can see that time is not a real thing but a made up phenomenon
of the ego thought system.

So now that we know that in reality there is no time, past or future.
Nothing could have happened in the past. The tiny mad idea did not
happen in the past as there is no past. The tiny mad idea just keeps
happening in our mind over and over again in the present!

We maintain our belief in the ego thought system by believing in it
over and over again.  We keep re-telling the same story to ourselves
over and over in the present, but believing that it happened in a so
called past event.

This issue of time is a critical one regarding the teachings of The
Course. Once we get it, it will make many of the teaching fall in line
with each other and not appear to be in conflict with one and other.

The idea of time is one of the ego's greatest tools, because without
us believing in it we could not believe in an event that happened in a
so called past.

And the only event our ego is concerned with is one event, that we
separated from oneness. And by having "done" that, in the past, we are
guilty.

We can see that time is like one of the ego's chemicals. One of it's
many weapons of mass destruction of our right mind. A key element in
it's complex mass of ideas and beliefs to keep us reeling in confusion
and fear.

Once we get this issue of time and how it relates to the Course
teachings and the ego's plan, we will be finding ourselves asking,
"Why do I keep "having" this tiny mad idea going on in my mind?"

Thanks,
Steins

From: steins1 To: Disappearance_of_the_Universe@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject:
Re: Quantum Forgiveness and Newtonian Forgiveness

Brother,

Should we look upon forgiveness as such?:

To forgive is to see our Brother and ourselves as we are in this
moment and in none other. Quite literally, there is no moment for as
soon as a moment arrives it is vanished. There is nothing our
Brother, or we, can do in a moment because there is not enough time
in a moment to do anything in. So, should we not see our Brother and
ourselves in Thought only? Because only a thought can exist in a
moment. The moment one tries to do anything physically, the moment in
which to do it has passed and nothing has been done. Nothing has
happened. There is not enough time to do anything physically in a
moment. There is only time for Thought. So Thought we must be.

When we see our Brother or ourselves in motion, the time it would
take to create that motion has already passed. So, to see our Brother
or ourselves in any physical motion we must see each other in the
moment of time just passed. The past. And the past, like any other
time does not exist. When we see our Brother in the present, what
we're really seeing is the thought of our Brother in the past
presenting itself to us as if it were the present. But, by the time
he was able to take the slightest, littlest, most minute action, the
moment in which he could have done it had already passed. We're
thinking of him in the past and seeing him in the present. But, by
the time we see him, or ourselves, in the present the moment of time
in which to see it has likewise passed. So it becomes impossible to
see our Brother or ourselves because there is no time in which to
see. The past and present do not exist because the only time that
exists in Eternity is this moment now and none other. So, we can't
see our Brother or ourselves. We can only know us and we can only
know us now in this moment.

To see something that happened only a moment ago is the same as
seeing something that happened one-hundred or even one-thousand years
ago. When we see the past in the present, it's as if the past is
still happening regardless of how long ago we think it may have
happened. The past becomes as real to us then, if not more so, as the
present. So, if we want to see the civil-war, the Crucifixion, or our
last birthday we must find it where it is not. In the past. It didn't
happen. And it didn't happen only a moment ago. And that is where
we'll find it and that is where it's not. So, to see our Brother and
ourselves requires bringing the past moment into the present to
forgive in the future creating time.

When we bring the past, which does not exist because there was no
time in which to create it, into the moment the past moment becomes
the present time to forgive in the future which is the very creation
of time. But there is no time in which to create time. The moment we
try to create time, time is over. We were too late and did not
succeed. Rejoice. In a very real sense, in order to do anything we
must first do it in the past, because there's not enough time to do
it in the moment, then see the past moment as the present time. But
because there's not enough time to do anything physically in a moment
nothing has been done. Therefore, we do not exist physically because
in time we only have time for Thought and time does not exist.

Because we exist in Thought and Thought can do no harm, nothing can
be done to us and we can do nothing to anyone. No one can victimize
us nor we them because there has been no time in which to do it. And
there has been no time because there is no time to create time. Once
we see this, forgiveness becomes very real and unreal, necessary and
not necessary all at the same time because time has been put in a
position where it caves in on itself and must admit to its non-
existence. Without time, nothing can be done to us and we can do
nothing to anyone else.

Forgiveness is the opposite of seeing. Forgiveness is not to see at
all. Forgiveness is the recognition of the non-existence of time
reversing time by putting time where it never was.

In order for us to forgive our Brother must we not look for him in
the past? But he is not there. Let us not look for our Brother where
he is not. Let us find him where he is now: in this moment. As the
sweet Everlasting Thought of Love which is his Creation. Let us not
work at forgiveness. For are we not really working at bringing up a
past that never happened and crucifying our kind and gentle Brother
over and over again and ourselves with him supplying our Brother with
the nails with which to do it then crying out he Loves me not? Why do
we want to do that? What purpose can it serve?

In order for us to forgive ourselves must we not do the same thing?
Let us look at ourselves in the moment of our Creation which is this
moment now. We were not created in a moment long gone by. We will not
be created in a moment yet to come. We are Created now. In this
moment and in none other and with no time with which to crucify. Let
us not try. Let us only be Created now and give thanks to our Creator
for creating us in such a way that forgiveness is impossible and Love
is All and All that Is.

Love and Light,
Jim

From: James Peck imsojimmy To: Course_Talk@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:13 AM
Subject:
Forgiveness and the undoing of time

Brian Greene's "The Fabric of The Cosmos" is a wonderful book explicating
the non-technical world of advanced theoretical physics, and I think it is
accessible to anyone despite their scientific background. It's one of
the most readable yet complete books on theoretical physics to be found. 
There's something on page 453 that is quite relevant to Gary Renard's
experience with Arten and Pursah in Disappearance of the Universe (DU). 
It's in the chapter on "Teleporters and Time Machines" in the discussion of
the fascinating paradox about a guy who travels back in time to New Years Eve
1965 the moment before his parents met, in order to perhaps keep them from
meeting and eventually conceiving him.

Greene writes: "The intuitive picture envisions the stroke of midnight,
December 31, 1965 ..., as 'initially' being the moment of your parents
meeting, but envisions further that your interference 'subsequently' changes
things so that at the stroke of midnight, December 31, 1965, your parents
are miles, if not continents, apart. The problem with this recounting of
events, though, is that moments don't change; as we've seen, they just are.
The space-time loaf exists, fixed and unchanging. There is no meaning to a
moment's 'initially' being one way and 'subsequently' being another way."

Arten says it this way in DU, p. 188: "The process... gives you one example
of how the universe follows a script that was made in a holographic way but
appears to play out in a linear manner, like a movie that has already been
filmed. The whole thing has been written, and so has your life story."

Greene goes on:
"This realization [immutability of time] still leads us to some quirky
conclusions, but it avoids paradox. For example, you would appear in the
space-time loaf at 11:50 p.m., December 31, 1965, but before that moment
there would be no record of your existence. This is strange, but not
paradoxical. If a guy saw you pop in at 11:50 p.m. and asked you, with fear
in his eyes, where you came from, you could calmly answer, 'The future.' "

Sound familiar? According to Greene, someone popping in to existence like
this is strange, but not "paradoxical."

Greene continues:
"In this scenario, at least so far, we are not caught in a logical impasse.
Where things get more interesting, of course, is if you then try to carry
out your mission and keep your parents from meeting. What happens? Well,
carefully maintaining the 'space-time block' perspective, we inescapably
conclude that you can't succeed. No matter what you do on that fateful New
Year's Eve, you'll fail. Keeping your parents apart-while seeming to be
within the realm of things you can do-actually amounts to logical
gobbledygook. Your parents met at the stroke of midnight. You were there.
And you will "always" be there. Each moment just is; it doesn't change.
Applying the concept of change to a moment makes as much sense as subjecting
a rock to psychoanalysis. Your parents met at the stroke of midnight,
December 31, 1965, and nothing can change that because their meeting is an
immutable, unchangeable event, eternally occupying its spot in space-time."

This is why Arten said "We couldn't care less about the space-time
conundrum." (DU p. 21)

Time is a fascinating subject.  Here are a couple of books about time:
"The End of Time" by Julian Barbour, in which he attempts to show that
the familiar equations of physics bring in the concept time when it's not
fundamentally necessary. A hunch is that Barbour has reached depths of
spiritual understanding in which he knows time is illusory, and he has tried
to build a bridge between that truth and the views of conventional physics.
"About Time" by Paul Davies. Here is a quote (p281): "Could it be that,
after millennia of deliberation about time, we shall finally discover that
it doesn't really exist as a basic ingredient of reality...?"

Peace,
Mark

From: Mark E. To: Disappearance_of_the_Universe@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:59 PM
Subject:
RE: Quantum Forgiveness and Newtonian Forgiveness


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